gautamagg
04-23 01:41 PM
Thanks for your very kind feedback everyone. Let me address a few things all of you raised:
1. Not once did I mention I represent Immigration Voice - in fact the man in the white shirt assumed I did and I categorically along with my 4 friends said I was not.
2. Talking about being elitist:
a). I am not sure what makes you believe that - if its the words like prestigious etc. Keep in mind my friends, these are politicians you are talking to. You got to use a language that resonates the flaws in their laws. And when a powerful statement like mentioning a school can be made, I would make it. In addition, its about telling a story with passion, they all know about the EB2/ EB3 issues, retrogression, inability to apply 485, spouses inability work. Our telling them those same issues again wont help especially to the one who wrote the new proposal. You have to tell him a story that shows that the US will be hurt as we have other options - if we show them an attitude that this is country is our only option, they will not do much but abuse our rights further. He should be told they would loose us. In fact the passive Indian attitude has to be killed. We need to have the "WTF" attitude and not believe the GC being the end of our lives.Let them know we carry the skilled edge and if you don't fix our situation then its only your loss. This is what the foundation was of our country's independence - don't forget that.
b). Don't tell me people did not have personal agendas to fight for. We legals are crying about illegals coming ahead of us. People in EB2 don't read about EB3. IV focuses on employment based issues - what about people on family based issues? What about people who have green cards but can't marry because of waiting periods. These are all issues and equally important from the eyes of the person suffering them. We all have our agendas.
i). The dude in the white shirt did not want IV guys to read what the Latinos had to say on their flyer. Was he not trying to promote IV's agenda at a predominantly illegal and Latinos focused gathering?
Some of us wanted English in a crowd that was primarily Hispanic. Was that not an agenda?
ii). How many of you would have been part of IV if you already had a green card - even though you faced so many hurdles. I bet none of you. You all care about your GCs - lets be honest. At least in my case I know nothing can happen for me to go to school this year and I am taking a chance in India. I know I wont get the benefit of it - but I am raising a concern for future people who could benefit.
iii). Talking about agendas - think with a cool mind - My story and that of the other 15 people's is actually a pretty powerful story to discuss in media - to go to newspapers to go to lawmakers - we are backed by the Stanfords and the Harvards. Our story is a perfect platform one could use to affect Immigration Reform. And I did reach out to IV about this a month ago - but since we were only 14 it is not on your agenda. Its all about numbers - and the rally proved it. The Senator talked only about illegals since that was his audience. IV folks were on the podium - what happened? Did one statement come about legals? No. Because we are not in the millions. Because we are chicken about loosing our jobs if we go on a country wide 1 day strike to prove how we can damage the economy if we don't work. We can't even get our employers to rally up for us where as the illegals have got their employers talk about them.
iv). How many of us realize that we are better off with an IT job that pays well when one compares to the 20K odd cash jobs the illegals support families of 4+ with? We all knew spouses cant work on H4 but we still got married - we all want to make more money with a better control on life and therefore we talk about reforms - trust me we all are better off than those illegals. But yet we have our own agenda and we are complaining.
3. Anyone who thinks I should get out of the portal - trust me you are not promoting free speech - the very essence of this country - I'll do what is right for me as long as I don't hurt anyone else...But don't get stressed if you did not get your chance...Its about survival of the fittest and when IV decided not to bring my case up, it was for me to bring it up. I believe in leading in the absence of a leader. I do not doubt IV's efforts but that rally was not your effective place. It was clearly addressed to the illegals and therefore I rose. I am in the same boat as all of you cant apply for stage 3, but then I took a stand, F*** the GC, I want to create my own destiny and not let a moron decide that I will stay a software engineer for the rest of my life...may of you want to go to school to get educated but are waiting for GC to happen - I was in that boat for ever too but enough is enough, I wont let my identity and my self respect be treated by the "Hijda visa" we all have to live off. I mean it DO NOT show a begging attitude for change in laws - be aggressive like the Latinas - you saw what happened at the rally. These lawmakers are looking for numbers to get votes - they don't care about you and me....they really don't....
4. Lastly, anyone who thinks I wanted free legal advice feel free to drop a note to me to see my lawyers fees in the last 3 weeks - also feel free to call Rajiv Khanna to see how many times I have spoken to him - the uniqueness of my situation caused him enough pain that he did a free conf-call 3 weeks ago and someone from IV was there too. Instead of being focused on the agenda of the call - he was trying to change focus to the agenda of getting his wife to work on H2 by moving to J1 and doing to school - these are all agendas my friends...
1. Not once did I mention I represent Immigration Voice - in fact the man in the white shirt assumed I did and I categorically along with my 4 friends said I was not.
2. Talking about being elitist:
a). I am not sure what makes you believe that - if its the words like prestigious etc. Keep in mind my friends, these are politicians you are talking to. You got to use a language that resonates the flaws in their laws. And when a powerful statement like mentioning a school can be made, I would make it. In addition, its about telling a story with passion, they all know about the EB2/ EB3 issues, retrogression, inability to apply 485, spouses inability work. Our telling them those same issues again wont help especially to the one who wrote the new proposal. You have to tell him a story that shows that the US will be hurt as we have other options - if we show them an attitude that this is country is our only option, they will not do much but abuse our rights further. He should be told they would loose us. In fact the passive Indian attitude has to be killed. We need to have the "WTF" attitude and not believe the GC being the end of our lives.Let them know we carry the skilled edge and if you don't fix our situation then its only your loss. This is what the foundation was of our country's independence - don't forget that.
b). Don't tell me people did not have personal agendas to fight for. We legals are crying about illegals coming ahead of us. People in EB2 don't read about EB3. IV focuses on employment based issues - what about people on family based issues? What about people who have green cards but can't marry because of waiting periods. These are all issues and equally important from the eyes of the person suffering them. We all have our agendas.
i). The dude in the white shirt did not want IV guys to read what the Latinos had to say on their flyer. Was he not trying to promote IV's agenda at a predominantly illegal and Latinos focused gathering?
Some of us wanted English in a crowd that was primarily Hispanic. Was that not an agenda?
ii). How many of you would have been part of IV if you already had a green card - even though you faced so many hurdles. I bet none of you. You all care about your GCs - lets be honest. At least in my case I know nothing can happen for me to go to school this year and I am taking a chance in India. I know I wont get the benefit of it - but I am raising a concern for future people who could benefit.
iii). Talking about agendas - think with a cool mind - My story and that of the other 15 people's is actually a pretty powerful story to discuss in media - to go to newspapers to go to lawmakers - we are backed by the Stanfords and the Harvards. Our story is a perfect platform one could use to affect Immigration Reform. And I did reach out to IV about this a month ago - but since we were only 14 it is not on your agenda. Its all about numbers - and the rally proved it. The Senator talked only about illegals since that was his audience. IV folks were on the podium - what happened? Did one statement come about legals? No. Because we are not in the millions. Because we are chicken about loosing our jobs if we go on a country wide 1 day strike to prove how we can damage the economy if we don't work. We can't even get our employers to rally up for us where as the illegals have got their employers talk about them.
iv). How many of us realize that we are better off with an IT job that pays well when one compares to the 20K odd cash jobs the illegals support families of 4+ with? We all knew spouses cant work on H4 but we still got married - we all want to make more money with a better control on life and therefore we talk about reforms - trust me we all are better off than those illegals. But yet we have our own agenda and we are complaining.
3. Anyone who thinks I should get out of the portal - trust me you are not promoting free speech - the very essence of this country - I'll do what is right for me as long as I don't hurt anyone else...But don't get stressed if you did not get your chance...Its about survival of the fittest and when IV decided not to bring my case up, it was for me to bring it up. I believe in leading in the absence of a leader. I do not doubt IV's efforts but that rally was not your effective place. It was clearly addressed to the illegals and therefore I rose. I am in the same boat as all of you cant apply for stage 3, but then I took a stand, F*** the GC, I want to create my own destiny and not let a moron decide that I will stay a software engineer for the rest of my life...may of you want to go to school to get educated but are waiting for GC to happen - I was in that boat for ever too but enough is enough, I wont let my identity and my self respect be treated by the "Hijda visa" we all have to live off. I mean it DO NOT show a begging attitude for change in laws - be aggressive like the Latinas - you saw what happened at the rally. These lawmakers are looking for numbers to get votes - they don't care about you and me....they really don't....
4. Lastly, anyone who thinks I wanted free legal advice feel free to drop a note to me to see my lawyers fees in the last 3 weeks - also feel free to call Rajiv Khanna to see how many times I have spoken to him - the uniqueness of my situation caused him enough pain that he did a free conf-call 3 weeks ago and someone from IV was there too. Instead of being focused on the agenda of the call - he was trying to change focus to the agenda of getting his wife to work on H2 by moving to J1 and doing to school - these are all agendas my friends...
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paritp
07-18 12:34 PM
i call the service center no and then ext 1,2,2,6,2,2,1
first i spoke to level 1 cs n then was directed to level2
the lady there was very nice and i asked her what to do as i filed I 485 on july 2 and didnt know wat to do going forward.......
so she asked for my last name first name and DOB and said that there was no entry in my name..........so basically she didnt know the whereabouts of my application.......
she advices me to wait for a week n check again as i was not in the system. she also told me that this does not mesan that i am rejected or anything like that.
so i will wait for a few days n call back on monday
pari
first i spoke to level 1 cs n then was directed to level2
the lady there was very nice and i asked her what to do as i filed I 485 on july 2 and didnt know wat to do going forward.......
so she asked for my last name first name and DOB and said that there was no entry in my name..........so basically she didnt know the whereabouts of my application.......
she advices me to wait for a week n check again as i was not in the system. she also told me that this does not mesan that i am rejected or anything like that.
so i will wait for a few days n call back on monday
pari
sripk
03-22 07:22 PM
I am from bay area, CA and would like to travel to DC to participate in the advocacy effort! If there is a group traveling from here, I want to get in touch with you. Please let me know. Thanks!
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ashkam
07-24 06:54 PM
Only the ones who were on OPT.
I was on OPT but my I140 has a different number than the one on my OPT.
I was on OPT but my I140 has a different number than the one on my OPT.
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rockstart
03-10 01:54 PM
I have posted a question on page 3 of this thread on same / similar can some one answer it? :(
PHANI_TAVVALA
05-15 10:46 AM
Thanks Phani!!.
This is great information. I will do some research. How much GMAT score is required?
Probably I will check on the site.
Are you married and kids? You are doing online one right?
GMAT score alone is not the criteria but they are a bit liberal on the online version. Your recommendations matter and your experience, essay and previous education credentials matter too. I am not sure about the cut-off for KD but I started part-time and converted to KD when I moved out of Indiana. My GMAT score was either 620 or 630, which I thought was on the lower end of the curve. I started my M.B.A a year before I got married and found it much easier to manage my time then. But these days my wife keeps complaining that I spend way too much time studying rather then with her. Managing with kids is going to be even more tough but definitely not unmanageable. I have colleagues, in my M.B.A program who are married with 2-3 young kids, who have said that I made the right move by trying to complete my M.B.A before having kids.
My intent is to just let you know that it won't be a cake-walk but then online will allow you lot more flexibility and time than regular or part-time M.B.A. You do not need to worry about attending classes and getting struck in traffic, assuming you could find a good school close by.
This is great information. I will do some research. How much GMAT score is required?
Probably I will check on the site.
Are you married and kids? You are doing online one right?
GMAT score alone is not the criteria but they are a bit liberal on the online version. Your recommendations matter and your experience, essay and previous education credentials matter too. I am not sure about the cut-off for KD but I started part-time and converted to KD when I moved out of Indiana. My GMAT score was either 620 or 630, which I thought was on the lower end of the curve. I started my M.B.A a year before I got married and found it much easier to manage my time then. But these days my wife keeps complaining that I spend way too much time studying rather then with her. Managing with kids is going to be even more tough but definitely not unmanageable. I have colleagues, in my M.B.A program who are married with 2-3 young kids, who have said that I made the right move by trying to complete my M.B.A before having kids.
My intent is to just let you know that it won't be a cake-walk but then online will allow you lot more flexibility and time than regular or part-time M.B.A. You do not need to worry about attending classes and getting struck in traffic, assuming you could find a good school close by.
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GCBy3000
01-17 11:34 AM
it is a slow process. This recurring contribution is a good process in long run. We will inspire our members to contribute. This will grow in to thousands eventually. Keep up the good work with our core objectives.
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bumping up the thread since this is the most crtical thing for us to achieve at this time so that we can put more resources at work in the coming months. As everyone could see on this thread, only few members have signed up for recurring contributions. We sent emails to all 8000+ members and the emails are still bouncing. Members have put fake email addresses. Despite repeated requests members have not updated their profile. In future when we send out updates by email or phone, such members will not get any updates too.
Since yesterday more than 2000 members have visited IV site and read this thread. We did not even get 1/100th of members signing up for this and contributing as little as $20.
Is this your commitment to the cause?
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bumping up the thread since this is the most crtical thing for us to achieve at this time so that we can put more resources at work in the coming months. As everyone could see on this thread, only few members have signed up for recurring contributions. We sent emails to all 8000+ members and the emails are still bouncing. Members have put fake email addresses. Despite repeated requests members have not updated their profile. In future when we send out updates by email or phone, such members will not get any updates too.
Since yesterday more than 2000 members have visited IV site and read this thread. We did not even get 1/100th of members signing up for this and contributing as little as $20.
Is this your commitment to the cause?
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yetanotherguyinline
05-15 03:23 PM
That's bull. Online at top-rated university costs as much as full-time but definitely not more. Most of the top-notch universities don't even differentiate in-state and out-of-state. M.B.A is a money printing machine for them. Assistantships, in full-time schools, are very few and scarce and competition for them is pretty high. I have friends going to Darden School of Business as full-time students and they are paying close to $70k in fee alone. Add to this the cost of living, books etc. Times are pretty bad now and few of them couldnot even get internships for this summer and few who got had had their offers rescinded. For full-time school you have to consider something called "Opportunity Cost". There was a article in Businessweek which mentioned that a Harvard full-time M.B.A will take 15 years to break-even on his M.B.A investment. The reason for this is that he will be spending $80k on fee alone, another $20-30k for living expenses for 2 years, another 10-20k in books and other expenses. At the same time he would have lost on a average $160-200k in 2 year salary and benefits. Combines together it adds upto $300k which can be invested at average 6% interest, if you are a savvy investor, and get good returns. Assuming a Harvard M.B.A graduate on a average make $120k out-of-school if would take 15 years for him to break-even even with all the increments and bonuses.
Dont take current year as a standard (unless you believe that things will get only worse from here). About your ROI description, it is very generic. Each person has to take his or her personal circumstances into consideration before making this calculation. Another problem with this ROI calculation being applied to engineers (I am one too) is that our initial salaries tend to be high but we tend to hit a ceiling around the time we hit 30 (what next after project manager or product manager?).
One more important thing to think about is what do you want to do in life. If MBA can get you there, there is probably not much meaning to this ROI calculation as you cannot put a price on ability to do what you wanted to (and be happy). This is precisely why I said find out why do you want an MBA in the prior post. That is the most important part of this discovery process. I understand that lives change and people change, which is why it is important to talk to people who have "been there and done that".
Dont take current year as a standard (unless you believe that things will get only worse from here). About your ROI description, it is very generic. Each person has to take his or her personal circumstances into consideration before making this calculation. Another problem with this ROI calculation being applied to engineers (I am one too) is that our initial salaries tend to be high but we tend to hit a ceiling around the time we hit 30 (what next after project manager or product manager?).
One more important thing to think about is what do you want to do in life. If MBA can get you there, there is probably not much meaning to this ROI calculation as you cannot put a price on ability to do what you wanted to (and be happy). This is precisely why I said find out why do you want an MBA in the prior post. That is the most important part of this discovery process. I understand that lives change and people change, which is why it is important to talk to people who have "been there and done that".
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thirdworldman
02-16 08:50 PM
I tend to sterr away from nurbs and use polygons exclusively...most 3d packages now (max, maya, xsi, lightwave, etc.) have really improved upon polygonal modeling, having added features such as subdivision surfaces (or sub'd's). This is great for any type of model, whether it be architectural or organic. Some people argue that Sub D's have rendered nurbs obsolete (no pun intended). I personally use XSI, but this is a new standard modeling method that can be applied to almost any program. Google the term, and see if there are any good tuts out there for your program.
In a nutshell, Sub D's allow you to work on a low density object, while in real-time, a virtual high resolution copy of that object is updated. The beauty of this lies in the ability to create organic nurbslike objects) with very little work, with even more accurate results than what can be achieved with nurbs. On the flipside, almost all architectural/structural modeling should be built with polys in the first place. I hope that helps, and if you need any more pointers about Sub D's, let me know.
In a nutshell, Sub D's allow you to work on a low density object, while in real-time, a virtual high resolution copy of that object is updated. The beauty of this lies in the ability to create organic nurbslike objects) with very little work, with even more accurate results than what can be achieved with nurbs. On the flipside, almost all architectural/structural modeling should be built with polys in the first place. I hope that helps, and if you need any more pointers about Sub D's, let me know.
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Tito_ortiz
02-13 03:56 PM
His views are distorted.
Can Americans go to India on H1B or similar visa to get work? No? Well, so think about it.
Can Americans go to India on H1B or similar visa to get work? No? Well, so think about it.
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psaxena
05-27 05:33 PM
I am really laughing.... very true, there are a lot of dumbs on this forum
The guy at Kino's was probably a dumb high school dropout and you have proved to be his match by posting it here....
The guy at Kino's was probably a dumb high school dropout and you have proved to be his match by posting it here....
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BharatPremi
07-13 10:23 AM
To those guys:
Who are against Ms Murthy or any other law firms please educate yourselves before start whining. I am not going into more detail but I think Delax has fairly explained... Some entities may be working in the background for our cause and can not go public about their activities... You would say how do you know? For that you will have to learn the art of "Reading between the lines" .. And if you can not do that please shut your mouths. Everybody is playing their parts fairly.
Who are against Ms Murthy or any other law firms please educate yourselves before start whining. I am not going into more detail but I think Delax has fairly explained... Some entities may be working in the background for our cause and can not go public about their activities... You would say how do you know? For that you will have to learn the art of "Reading between the lines" .. And if you can not do that please shut your mouths. Everybody is playing their parts fairly.
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lkapildev
02-20 03:37 PM
Dude. I am *so* not Ron Gotcher. :)
He was rushing and didn't give me any specifics for EB-3 India.
You should respect his opnion & valuable comments. WHatever he says make senes. I belive him.
He was rushing and didn't give me any specifics for EB-3 India.
You should respect his opnion & valuable comments. WHatever he says make senes. I belive him.
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GCBy3000
01-16 10:10 AM
I have already signed up through my bank to send $20 everymonth to IV. It will also have memo with my name gcby3000.
So you can count me against $20.
So you can count me against $20.
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StarSun
02-09 08:21 AM
I have lived in VA before and know how much of a mess it can be to commute between VA and DC.
However, for this specific event, would local members or those who have had experience attending advocacy days last year recommend to solely use public transport to get to the DC/Cap Hill area or would renting a car be of any help. I was thinking of just renting a car to just get from airport to place of stay and then use public transport on Mon/Tue to get to DC.
LOOK FORWARD TO SUGGESTIONS as I need to plan my travel.
Parking can be a problem near the Hill. It is probably best to use public transportation.
However, for this specific event, would local members or those who have had experience attending advocacy days last year recommend to solely use public transport to get to the DC/Cap Hill area or would renting a car be of any help. I was thinking of just renting a car to just get from airport to place of stay and then use public transport on Mon/Tue to get to DC.
LOOK FORWARD TO SUGGESTIONS as I need to plan my travel.
Parking can be a problem near the Hill. It is probably best to use public transportation.
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vghc
07-03 11:23 AM
The point is to not 'distribute pain', it is to reduce the pain of a group.
Again, even though the benefits may go to one 'group', let me tell you that it is not a formal group and just as all ROW applicants are not one group, non-ROW applicants too are individuals and IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ONE INDIVIDUAL HOW MUCH OTHERS GOT BENEFITED.
So your point of saying that one group is benefited is irrelevant, because GCs aren't given to groups and only to individual applicants.
Your other point is absolutely right! Family should not be counted, and I'm in 100% agreement with that!
I am sure if the EB GC's goes to the principle applicant we all won't be in this bad of a shape. Its because of the addition of wife or kids, the number pool dries up faster. So if one wants to petition of elimination of country quote under the notion that EB community is needed because of our skills, take out the family members, then it makes sense, if not, don't. My 2 cents.
Again, even though the benefits may go to one 'group', let me tell you that it is not a formal group and just as all ROW applicants are not one group, non-ROW applicants too are individuals and IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ONE INDIVIDUAL HOW MUCH OTHERS GOT BENEFITED.
So your point of saying that one group is benefited is irrelevant, because GCs aren't given to groups and only to individual applicants.
Your other point is absolutely right! Family should not be counted, and I'm in 100% agreement with that!
I am sure if the EB GC's goes to the principle applicant we all won't be in this bad of a shape. Its because of the addition of wife or kids, the number pool dries up faster. So if one wants to petition of elimination of country quote under the notion that EB community is needed because of our skills, take out the family members, then it makes sense, if not, don't. My 2 cents.
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krupa
07-05 12:02 PM
This site is belong to Non profit organization. I believe the main aim is to help members and share knowledge among each other. There are other ways to get funds to maintain the site. As one said that Yahoo, google , Sulecha etc providing free email service, driving direction etc.
If you make it paid , this will not papoulous and many may share the thier knowledge and experience.
It may be suggested to get adds in the site.
Thanks
If you make it paid , this will not papoulous and many may share the thier knowledge and experience.
It may be suggested to get adds in the site.
Thanks
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gc_aspirant_prasad
09-11 06:54 PM
^^^ Bump ^^^^
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svr_76
06-10 02:21 PM
Gr8 you win. now lets forge ahead on how to proceed and get similar details from other groups specially the high-tech lobby/group.
vagish
04-04 03:57 PM
If you want a good discussion on a topic stop generalizing things and do not use rants like racist engineers etc. When you make an assumption please be clear about. You have assumed most people work for consulting companies and most people are frustrated with it. Not so. I don't work for them and I am not frustrated with them. My only concern with them is they are exploiting the system to their advantage and at my cost. This has two fold affect not only the take cut from your salary but also put a bad name to H1B visa program in general. Whoever wrote the bill or whatever are the consequences there is definitely some good things in that bill. Let me list out how some provisions are good:
1. If you are employable in US and you have the skills you will get the job with or without these middlemen. They come into picture only because they can start a corporation and then start the exploitation game. If a bill is taking these guys out what's wrong with it ? This will allow genuine corporations to hire the right candidates.
2. Putting 30 days of ad. to hire US citizens first ? What's wrong with it ? If their skills are really outdated and you are the best and the brightest you will get the job.
If you need more evidence of why H1B program needs reform look no further than H1B cap used up on first day. This has put good undue hard ship for good candidates while Infosys/Wipro etc will once again take the lion's share of H1B numbers. Why do you want them to win at your cost ? Stop calling people affected by this mess as "Racist Engineers". Try to put yourself in their shoes and some of these practices are affecting both the H1B visa holders (with indentured servitude) and citizens with wage depression. No body wins in the end but the people who are exploiting the system.
completely agree.
1. If you are employable in US and you have the skills you will get the job with or without these middlemen. They come into picture only because they can start a corporation and then start the exploitation game. If a bill is taking these guys out what's wrong with it ? This will allow genuine corporations to hire the right candidates.
2. Putting 30 days of ad. to hire US citizens first ? What's wrong with it ? If their skills are really outdated and you are the best and the brightest you will get the job.
If you need more evidence of why H1B program needs reform look no further than H1B cap used up on first day. This has put good undue hard ship for good candidates while Infosys/Wipro etc will once again take the lion's share of H1B numbers. Why do you want them to win at your cost ? Stop calling people affected by this mess as "Racist Engineers". Try to put yourself in their shoes and some of these practices are affecting both the H1B visa holders (with indentured servitude) and citizens with wage depression. No body wins in the end but the people who are exploiting the system.
completely agree.
anurakt
01-17 01:52 PM
Well Said Pappu, if you ask for people to ask IV for updates 20 times a day, we will get thousands of contributions ...but when it comes to money to support the cause .....all these don't show the faces. These people call themselves high skilled , they want everything without contributing a cent .... ... ....:mad: :mad:
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